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Getting Value Out Of Loyalty Programs

05/28/2010

Yesterday, I spent some time critiquing Chris Elliot’s editorial against frequent flier programs.    Towards the end of the post I gave a somewhat cryptic manifesto:

My advice is for the deadbeats out there who want to travel for free.    To them I say; Join me in finding the maximum value from credit card, hotel, and airline loyalty programs.   Learn the difference in value between Starpoints and Skypesos.    If you are an infrequent paying customer, like me, you can be airline agnostic when you are shelling out actual dollars for a plane ticket.     When flying on your own dime, choose your carrier by price and service, not loyalty points.

When choosing a credit card to earn or redeem loyalty points with, choose an airline that has actual availability to your destination at reasonable redemption rates.   All of these skills cost nothing but your time and effort in learning them.

Allow Me To Expand

Join me in finding the maximum value from credit card, hotel, and airline loyalty programs.

Frequent flier miles, hotel points, and credit card reward programs are collectively referred to as loyalty programs.    All loyalty programs are not created equal.   In fact, there are massive disparities in value between various reward programs.

Learn the difference in value between Starpoints and Skypesos.

To illustrate the difference in value between loyalty programs, I would like to contrast two different currencies.   On one hand we have Starpoints issued by Starwood hotels, whose most well know brands include Westin and Sheraton.    Starpoints are the gold standard in reward card point for several reasons.    First, the points can be redeemed for any hotel stay at any available room with no capacity restrictions or blackouts.   If they have a room available for purchase with cash, you can choose to redeem your points to stay there.   Next, you can redeem Starwood points for miles on dozens of airlines.    Better yet, you get 5,000 bonus Starpoints every time you redeem 20,000, so that the transfer rate is 25% better than 1:1.     For example, if you spend $20,000 on your Starwood American Express card, you will receive 20,000 Starpoints that can translate into 25,000 miles on American Airlines.    In contrast, if you were to spend the same $20,000 on your Citibank AAdvantage card, you will get only 20,000 AAdvantage miles.    Clearly a Starpoint is worth more than an AAdvantage mile.   I currently value my Starpoints at around 3.5 to 4 cents each, but I can sometimes receive more than 5 cents per point in value.

In practice, a Starpoint is worth more than just about any airline’s mile, as the inherent flexibility of transferring between different airlines is extremely valuable.   When it comes time to redeem an award, you can choose to transfer miles to an airline that actually has availability to your destination, rather than the one you have been earning miles with for years.

Finally, Starwood customer service is the best in the business.  On the rare occasion that I have needed to contact them, they have always satisfied my concerns promptly and effectively.   In most industries this would be the standard you would expect, in the travel industry it is a rare exception.

What About SkyPesos?

Now let’s contrast Starwood points with Delta SkyMiles, which I will refer to as Skypesos for reasons that will become clear.    Delta may be the largest airline in the world (for the moment), but they have a lot to learn about providing value to their loyalty program.    Last year Delta went to a three tiered system for points redemptions, high, medium and low.  The high and medium tiers have broad availability, but at redemption prices far above other programs.   For example, a medium tier round trip business class award from North America to the Middle east is 230,000 SkyPesos.     If you look at US Airways Star Alliance partner chart, you will see that the same business class award is a mere 120,000 Dividend miles, just more than half the Delta award.    Don’t even get me started on the High tier in which your Skymiles are more like Zimbabwean Dollars than even pesos.   Delta does pretend to offer a Low tier business class award for a mere 120,000, but there is a big catch.  It may be easier to find a Sasquatch petting a Unicorn than to find Low tier award availability using their online search engine.    First, their online search engine is broken, a fact they were forced to admit when the Wall Street Journal found they had little to no award availability at the Low tier.   Even if you choose to call Delta, you will incur an “award reservation fee” for having to deal with their poorly trained overseas call centers.   Many people report that they have to hang up and call back several times just to find a representative who will make a decent effort to find award seat availability.   Finally, when you have problem with Delta, contact customer service often results in the reception of a series of form letters that make it clear that nobody has even bothered to read your complaint.

It Is Up To You

You can be defeatist and decide that loyalty programs are a rip off,  conclusion many Delta travelers have reached, or take the smart path toward free travel as many Starwood aficionados have.    Starwood and Delta represent two ends of a spectrum of award availability.   Nevertheless, the Starwood program isn’t right for everybody, and even the Delta program still remains valuable to some.    If a few thousand dollars worth of travel is no big deal to you, skip loyalty programs and just pay cash, the rest of you can join me and travel for free.

BA Visa or Starwood Credit Card?

Dr Robin Conwit wrote:
Currently I have Marriott Visa for personal expenses and United Visa for business. I travel at least 20 trips per year, 2-3 international. My work pays directly for my flights and I pay for hotels. Do you recommend BA visa or Starwood amex personal or business for me? I already have gold status on Marriott and premier on United but starwood hotels are better internationally and BA is only direct international carrier to europe from BWI. Thanks.

I then asked him how much is going to be spent on the card? And this was the reply I got.

about $50K per year and I pay in full

Answer – Robin, I am inclined towards a Starwood business card. But first, let’s explore your alternatives.

Starwood Business – This is actually the card I recommend for two reasons. Firstly, if you use Starpoints for Starwood Hotels, you’ll get back at least 3 cents or 3% equivalent in rebates most of the time. Secondly, Starwood also has partnerships with over 30 airlines where you can transfer Starpoints (mostly on a one for one ratio). British Airways is one of the partners. You can transfer points on a one for one ratio and furthermore, if you transfer 20,000 points into BA miles, you will get 5,000 bonus miles as well!.

Another reason why I like the Starwood Business Card is because as part of Amex OPENSavings network, you can get a 5% discount when you stay at various lower tier Marriot Hotels like Courtyard, Residence Inn, Fairfields, SpringHill.

At present, the Starwood Business Card gives you a 10,000 sign up bonus. Since you spend about $50,000 on the card, you will have 60,000 miles. If you transfer them on separate days of 20,000 points, you will get a total of 15,000 bonus miles (5,000 X 3). That means in the first year, you would have 75,000 BA miles if you are savvy about converting them. From the second year onwards, you will have 60,000 BA miles (if you convert 50,000 in two chunks 20,000 and 30,000 and getting the 10,000 bonus miles – 2 X 5,000). This will be enough for flight to Europe.

BA Visa – The British Airways Visa allows you to earn 2.5 miles for every dollar you spend on their products (ie tickets). The advantage of the BA Visa is that you can get companion ticket (once every year) if you spend $30,000 in a year. You can earn total of 30,000 in sign up bonus (20,000 after first use of card and 10,000 miles after spending $750). So in the first year, you would have 80,000 miles.

The BA Visa would be appealing if you had a companion fly with you. But otherwise, after the first year, Starwood appears to be the better bet. The other issue you have to be aware of is that BA is notorious for charging obscene fuel surcharge (that is some instances costs as much as their tickets if you use miles to redeem for flights!).

My Thoughts – I would go for the Starwood because you have the flexibility of using points for Starwood Hotel stays (IMO you get much more value from that) and if you feel like using it for your BA flights, you can transfer points (you need only 40,000 points because if you transfer 20,000, you get 5,000 bonus BA miles) into your BA account. I would also go for the business version (Starwood Preferred Guest&#174 Business Credit Card from American Express OPEN)because you can get 5% discounts at various Marriott hotels. I am more inclined to use Starwood points for their hotels than to earn BA points for flights since your company pays for flights and also because BA is notorious for their high fuel surcharge fees.

Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express OPEN (Private)

GreenDot Prepaid Card Review

Green Dot® Gold Prepaid Visa CardThe GreenDot Prepaid Card is one of the most popular prepaid cards around and you will have probably seen them in TV ads. We are going to look at this card in greater detail. So let’s get going.

Fees – The most important factor in judging whether a prepaid card is good is whether they are loaded with fees. Fortunately, the GreenDot is great is this respect. There is a $4.95 activation fee (but it is waived when you apply here). Deposits via direct deposit are free. There is also no fee for ATM withdrawals at their network. There is also no overdraft or penalty fee.

There is also a monthly fee of $5.95, which is waived if you load at least $1000 in your card or have 30 monthly transactions.

Opinion and Verdict – The GreenDot Prepaid Card is will appeal to those who do not wish to have a bank account, but want the convenience of an ATM card. The great feature about this card is that there is no ATM fees if you use one in their network. He or she would preferably have a direct deposit of $1000 or more each month and use the card often (30 times a month) to avoid the monthly fee. If this description fits your usage pattern (or potential usage pattern), the this would be a great prepaid card to get. It is available as a MasterCard (Green Dot® Prepaid MasterCard® or a Visa (Green Dot® Gold Prepaid Visa Card).

NatWest Student Credit Card

Summary: The NatWest Student credit card is a card designed specifically for students with discounts and features that assists students who are new to credit.

Features and Benefits: The NatWest Student card has a maximum credit limit of £500 to help control spending. There is no annual fee for this card and a typical 18.9% APR (variable).

Other features include:

Conclusion: The NatWest Student credit card is a great card for students who are new to credit and would like to start out slowly, yet have access to a credit card that includes a number of discounts and features. The card is subject to approval and to qualify you also need to be 18 years of age or older and have a NatWest Student current account. It is also only available in the UK and to residents of the UK.

Vision Premier Prepaid Visa Card Review

05/27/2010

Vision Premier® Visa® Prepaid CardThe Vision Premier® Visa® Prepaid Card is a prepaid credit card issued by Bancorp Bank. Like all prepaid credit cards, it is targeted at those who have no banking accounts or those with bad or no credit history. Let’s look at this card in greater detail.

Fees – I think the most important factor in judging a prepaid credit card is it’s fees. So let’s take a look at the fees that are in this card.

Firstly, there is an activation fee of $9.99. There is also a monthly fee of $6.95 if you choose to load your card via direct deposit. If you choose not to load your card via direct deposit, you will be charged an additional “monthly conditional fee” of $4.95!

Like most other prepaid cards these days, most methods of loading money onto your card are free. Signature based transactions also do not incur fees. You can also pay your bills with this card at no cost.

Build Credit With This Card? – Cardholders of this card who pay their rent, utilities, cell phone or other recurring bills with it will have them reported to PRBC (a national credit reporting unit). This service is called PayFit Credit Builder. The PRBC is certainly not FICO, but apparantly, some lenders use it as a supplement to one’s FICO scores.

$33 Cash Rebate Cardholders will also get $33 into their card if they load the card three times for three consecutive months. They will have to load the card $50 each time.

Opinion and Verdict – The Vision Premier® Visa® Prepaid Card is most suited to those who do not have a bank account or have poor credit and are looking for a prepaid card. Ideally, you would want to use direct deposit as the main way to load your account because you will save on the monthly fees you have to pay. It will perhaps also help a little in terms of building credit with PRBC. And if you load your card for than $50 at a go, the cash rebate is an icing on the cake as well.

But if you intend to load your card with more than $500 at once and have that amount in the card, there are other cards like Mango and Yap that are more cost effective as they have no monthly fees and even no activation fee.

Capital One Venture or Discover More Card?

05/26/2010

I recently got the following email from a reader.

Marv Simpson wrote:
Hi there,
I’m torn between the Discover More Card and the Capital One Venture Card, two cards that I’ve read lots of great reviews about on other websites. Would you recommend either one of them for someone with a 750+ score on both Experian & Equifax who ONLY makes $25,000-$30,000 per year? I’m not sure if income has more weight than credit score when card issuers contemplate whom to issue cards to, and I’d like your advice.

Thanks in advance,

I probed further with a couple of more questions.

The more important question is

1. how much would you charge to the card?
2. what rewards do you want?

answer these and we will have a clearer picture.

In which she replied

Hi there,
$1,000+ per month, and I’m looking for the best cash back features between the two, or any other credit card you’d recommend.

Thanks!

Answer – Mary – first off let me say that since you are looking for cash rewards and your spending is about $1000 a month, I think there are other cards that will better serve your purpose. Here’s why.

The Capital One Venture Card is more of a reward card in which you earn points. You could obviously exchange the points for cash rebates (but at best you earn 1%).

The Discover More Card is a great card. But it has a tier formula. You need to spend above $3,000 annually to get 1% cash rebates. They have a great shopping portal in which you could earn anywhere from 5% to 20% with their merchant partners. They also pay 5% rebates on categories like gas, home improvements which change (or rather rotate) on a quarterly basis. But because of the $3,000 tier you have to cross, I would suggest the following cards instead.

Why not consider the Chase Freedom&#174 Visa&#174 – $100 BOnus Cash Back? You earn 1% straight off on every dollar you spend on the card. Like the Discover Card, you can earn 5% rebates on rotating categories and also extra rebates on the Ultimate Rewards program shopping mall.

Another card to consider is the Citi&#174 Dividend Platinum Select&#174 Card. Like the Chase Freedom&#174 Visa&#174, you earn 1% rebates for every dollar that you spend. But they also have a great online shopping portal called the Citi Bonus Cash Center where you can earn extra rebates with their online merchants. Unlike the Chase Freedom or the Discover More Card, there are no 5% rebates for rotating categories.

Given your spending level, my first choice would be the Chase Freedom&#174 Visa – $100 Bonus Cash Back. If you insist on Discover vs Capital One Venture, I’d go with Discover because of their great shopping portal and 5% rotating categories.

Yap Prepaid Credit Card Review

YAP(TM) MasterCard Prepaid CardThe YAP™ MasterCard Prepaid Card is issued by Horizon Bank, SSB, a FDIC member. It is targeted at those without bank accounts and have problems with their credit. This prepaid card is one of the most cost effective cards on the market today. Let’s take a closer look at this card.

Fees – For me, the key feature to look out for in prepaid cards are their fees. In this area, this card is one of the best there is. There are no activation fees and transaction fees. There is also no fee for receiving money in your card (via direct deposit, bank account, mobile, or from another Yap customer) and also no fee to check your balances and see your transactions over the phone.

If your card is loaded with at least $500, there is no monthly fee.

Verdict – The YAP™ MasterCard Prepaid Card is perhaps one of the most cost effective prepaid credit cards in the market today. If you are looking for one, this would be on our recommended list.

RBS Student Credit Card

Summary: The RBS Student credit card is designed to assist students with managing new credit as well as providing benefits and discounts that students will value.

Features and Benefits: Students receive a maximum credit limit of £500 with no annual fee and a typical 18.9% APR (variable). The RBS Student MasterCard is subject to approval and available only to those that are 18 years of age or older that have an RBS Student current account.

Other benefits of the card include:

Conclusion: This is a great card for students who would like to begin building a credit history slowly and take advantage on specifically designed discounts and features as well.

Demonstraton Of The Starwood Amex Value Equation

05/25/2010

Like most travel and reward card aficionados, I am a huge fan of the Starwood Amex.   My hunch is that there is a surprisingly large number of Starwood Amex holders that rarely use their card at an actual Starwood hotel, they just accumulate Starwood points with their card for free hotel stays or to convert to airline miles.     I am one of those people.

Using My Starwood Amex To Actually Stay At A Starwood Hotel

Last week, I did something remarkable, I actually paid for a hotel stay at a Starwood hotel.   Well, kind of.    I used 48,000 Starpoints to stay 5 nights at the Westin St. John in the US Virgin Islands, while my parents were generous enough to allow me to bill their stay to my Starwood Amex.   Each of my award nights was 12,000 points, but the fifth night of any redemption is free.     This hotel normally charges between $400 and $500 a night, but they paid $329.    They received the lower rate because I used a 50% off the rack rate coupon that Amex gives to it’s Starwood cardholders every year, with the rack rate being higher than most normally discounted rates.   They were able to realize a significant savings right there, because I had the Starwood Amex.

After taxes and resort fees, our bill ended up at around $2,000.    On the final night of our stay, we treated ourselves to dinner at the hotel’s restaurant, and charged it to our rooms.   Conveniently, all charges at a Starwood property receive the same allocation of Starpoints as your room stay does.     As I will demonstrate, that allocation is considerable.

Triple Word Score!

You know that great feeling in Scrabble when you can combine bonuses and your points really add up?    That is the feeling you get when you figure out how many Starpoints you get when you actually use your Starwood Amex to pay for a stay at a Starwood hotel.       Normally, you get two Starpoints per dollar spent at a Starwood, regardless of how you pay.    I happen to be a Starwood Preferred Guest Gold member, a title earned solely by spending $30,000 a year on my Starwood card.    To be honest, I had a little help last year from the US Mint if you know what I mean.    As a Gold member, I get another 50% Starpoint bonus, just on my stay, so I received three Starpoints per dollar spent when I checked out, about 6,000 Starpoints.

We Are Just Getting Started

When I get my credit card bill, the $2,000 spent at the hotel will result in double Starpoints; 4,000.    So as a Starwood Amex holder and a Gold level member, I went from 4,000 Starpoints I would have otherwise received, to 10,000.     In this case, the paid room cost $329 per night, plus $26 in taxes, for a total of $355 a night or $1,775 total.    The room paid with miles cost 48,000 miles and there was no tax.     Therefore, in this case, my miles spent were worth 3.7 cents each.    The miles earned from spending $2,000 at the hotel (room plus resort fees and meals) therefore had a value of $370.    Another way to look at it is that as a Starwood card holder and a Starwood Gold level member, I got about 18 cents on the dollar back.

But Wait, There’s More!

We also took Westin’s vacation timeshare tour.   I feared the promised 90 minute presentation would be an aggressive sales pitch, but it was actually a fairly relaxed tour of the property, albeit two hours long.    For my time, I received another 6,000 Starpoints.   Finally, they had an offer to forgo housekeeping for a day for 500 Starpoints or a $5 credit.    Since I have just proven that Starpoints are worth closer to 4 cents than 1, you will understand why if that offer of cash insulted my intelligence.   We took the 500 Starpoints voluntarily one day, and another day we received the points because they didn’t vacuum our room.    We finished our 48,000 point stay with 17,000 points back.    Not bad.   To put that in perspective, remember that a mere 20,000 Starpoints can be transferred to 25,000 miles on dozens of airline programs, enough for a free domestic round trip.

What To Take Away

As I said, I accumulate valuable Starpoints almost exclusively through their Amex card, and this was one of the first times I actually used my card to charge a hotel stay.   The results of using my Starwood Amex combined with my Starwood Gold status exceeded my expectations, even if the hotel itself did not.    If I was ever in a position again where I was traveling on business, I would probably go a great deal out of my way to make sure that I was staying in a Starwood, and charging my stay to my Starwood Amex.     You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too many Starpoints!

Mango Prepaid Credit Card Review

mango card reviewThe The Mango™ MasterCard® Prepaid Card is issued by Horizon Bank, SSB, a FDIC member. It is a prepaid card that is primarily targeted those without bad accounts and perhaps with problems with their credit. This prepaid card is one of the most cost effective cards on the market today. Let’s take a closer look at this card.

Fees – The main thing to look out for in prepaid cards are their fees. In this respect, this is one of the best cards. Firstly, there are no activation fees and transaction fees. There is also no fee for receiving money in your card (via direct deposit, bank account, mobile, or from another Mango customer) and also no fee to check your balances and see your transactions over the phone. Unlike some other prepaid cards, there is also no fee for customer service calls.

If your card is loaded with at least $500 a month, there is no monthly fee.

Methods Of Loading Your Card – You can load the Mango in a variety of ways. The most obvious is via direct deposit (and it is free). You could also load your card from your bank account via ACH transfers. Once again, there is no charge for this. You can also add money to your card at locations with GreenDot’s MoneyPak (though there is a $4.95 charge for this). You can also use your mobile or another money from another Mango card (once again for free).

Mango Compared To Its Peers

The Mango Card compares very favorably with other cards, especially in terms of fees. Almost all prepaid cards we have reviewed charge an activation fee of about $9.95. This card does away with this fee right off the bat. While $9.95 may not see like much, it is a fee I would rather not pay.

Aside from that, the monthly fee is pretty low and can be waived if you load at least $500 a month into your card. This is better than the $1,000 requirement of the Walmart Money Card. Like the better cards out there, there is also no transaction fee (with no strings attached). And another overlooked fee is the customer service call fees that other cards charge for. Mango once again, does not charge you anything for a customer service call.

Perhaps the only thing that is really lacking from this card is rewards. For example, cards like the Upside Visa have online shopping portals where you can earn cash back. The Vision Prepaid Card gives cash rebates for gasoline purchases. But this cards more than makes up for it by the lower fees they charge.

Opinion and Verdict – The The Mango™ MasterCard® Prepaid Card is one of the best prepaid credit cards available in the market today because of its low fees. If you know you will load up your card with more than $500, you could get your monthly fee waived. Even if you do not load this much every month, this card is still a very cost effective prepaid card to get.

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