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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I take  settlement with a credit card co. and they give me an r5 rating or "settled" rating how long will it take me to get good credit again and how long will it stay on the credit report.  Can you negotiate the rating as well and if so what would be better.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debt negotiation which leads to debt settlements is a process to eliminate large amounts of debt either in one lump sum or a set of installments.  Debt negotiation cannot be started at least until account has fallen 90 days delinquent, if account is this past due then your credit has taken a hit.  It is not ethical or legal to suggest to anyone to stop making their payments to their creditors.

Joining a debt settlement program will cost money, my best suggestion is if you are going to join a debt settlement program join one that only charges fees on performance, meaning a company that only has one fee.  A fee for negotiated settlements only.

DYI or do it yourself is not as hard as the author suggests.  I have been negotiating debt for a long time, if you want to negotiate your own debt you need t o study the following:

1. Study Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
2. Learn a base of commonly debt settlement terms, for example charge off, litigation, reaging, etc...  You can find this vocabulary n most debt settlement sites or blogs.
3.  You need tough skin.  When speaking on the telephone with collectors you must be made of steel and always be two steps ahead of  them.  Never cave in, sound sure of yourself and negotiate wisely.  I do agree with the author about debt  negotiators, their experience negotiating every day.  I did not know how to negotiate unsecured debt at first, I started one account at a time and so can you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debt negotiation which leads to debt settlements is a process to eliminate large amounts of debt either in one lump sum or a set of installments.  Debt negotiation cannot be started at least until account has fallen 90 days delinquent, if account is this past due then your credit has taken a hit.  It is not ethical or legal to suggest to anyone to stop making their payments to their creditors.</p>
<p>Joining a debt settlement program will cost money, my best suggestion is if you are going to join a debt settlement program join one that only charges fees on performance, meaning a company that only has one fee.  A fee for negotiated settlements only.</p>
<p>DYI or do it yourself is not as hard as the author suggests.  I have been negotiating debt for a long time, if you want to negotiate your own debt you need t o study the following:</p>
<p>1. Study Fair Debt Collection Practices Act<br />
2. Learn a base of commonly debt settlement terms, for example charge off, litigation, reaging, etc&#8230;  You can find this vocabulary n most debt settlement sites or blogs.<br />
3.  You need tough skin.  When speaking on the telephone with collectors you must be made of steel and always be two steps ahead of  them.  Never cave in, sound sure of yourself and negotiate wisely.  I do agree with the author about debt  negotiators, their experience negotiating every day.  I did not know how to negotiate unsecured debt at first, I started one account at a time and so can you.</p>
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		<title>By: akshay</title>
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		<dc:creator>akshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, i was using a standard chartered credit card in april 2007 which had 50000 $ limit, i had used the card to a limit of 57000, the bank did not sent me bills for first 3 monhs, but after that one fine day sudenly i got a call saying me 3000 $ as minimum due payment as they had rounded up my outstandin @60000$, this payments of 3000$ went on for 4 months after that i was out of my job and all this continued for 4 months and because i was out of salary i dint paid the minimum amount, they called me last month and said me that i have to pay them 90000$, which is impossible for me to pay, is there any way for me to compromise on principal amount as its very tough to pay all this amount</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, i was using a standard chartered credit card in april 2007 which had 50000 $ limit, i had used the card to a limit of 57000, the bank did not sent me bills for first 3 monhs, but after that one fine day sudenly i got a call saying me 3000 $ as minimum due payment as they had rounded up my outstandin @60000$, this payments of 3000$ went on for 4 months after that i was out of my job and all this continued for 4 months and because i was out of salary i dint paid the minimum amount, they called me last month and said me that i have to pay them 90000$, which is impossible for me to pay, is there any way for me to compromise on principal amount as its very tough to pay all this amount</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a cc from 10 years ago that my late ex husband opened in my name and charged it up and now the cc company has said that they were gonna take $600 a month out of my check until the card is paid off.  Is this correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a cc from 10 years ago that my late ex husband opened in my name and charged it up and now the cc company has said that they were gonna take $600 a month out of my check until the card is paid off.  Is this correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your question Ashok, we'll answer it soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your question Ashok, we&#8217;ll answer it soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir, I am a credit card defaulter. I changed my address and likelihood of bank finding me is almost zero. But I feel guilty to do this and want to settle my account with bank, However, i am not in a condition to pay the full amount, but would like to get my name written off from bank's defaulter list. How do I settle my account with bank? what kind of rebate i can expect? Is there any agency to help me out in this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, I am a credit card defaulter. I changed my address and likelihood of bank finding me is almost zero. But I feel guilty to do this and want to settle my account with bank, However, i am not in a condition to pay the full amount, but would like to get my name written off from bank&#8217;s defaulter list. How do I settle my account with bank? what kind of rebate i can expect? Is there any agency to help me out in this?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Durante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn Durante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to take issue with Steve "The Debt Man" B. As long as you have considerable debt you need to know that your score will go up very little if you pay one debt. I understand we are talking about more debt than credit here, and delinquency. (For Imwilker - they run the world. You are hard to understand. You paid about $9,000.00 in 20 yrs? $500/yr? I can't have that right. That would be real bad. That's what it looks like.You are still at an amount where it is to their advantage to sue you, as they get costs, attorney fees, etc. some credit cards just have a certain amt where they won't talk to you. Keep paying and someone will talk to you at their set amount, probably $1500.00 to $1,000. I bet they'll talk to a lawyer. They are ass%oles but they don't owe you any kindness.) Personally I hate GE Money Bank. They like to pull fast ones. Now, It's true that a good portion of your score is how much you owe, but just as importantly to your score, the more you owe on more than one acct. the points will go down. As important and especially true for your points is whether you have a poor "debt to credit ratio" which means that you have more debt than you have available credit to borrow (usually on a credit card.) They even have a standard where they look to see if you have $10,000.00 on any card which is available for your use. Don't expect to see a big point rise if these other things exist on your report.Also, negative remarks can remain for at least 5 and up to 8 yrs. I just had a case where I worked to get rid of the remarks. It's true that they don't have a big effect on your points, but you can have negative remarks by a rotten credit card company for losing your temper with them on one phone call. I've seen it too much. They put that you are disputing them, and the way they word it translates into making you look like a troublemaker. Nothing on a credit report stays for close to 2 years. I wish that were true for my clients' sake. Not even close. But depending on your state many of those who are entitled to see your report may not be able to see the comments. If you have strong information in your favor where a negative remark is on your reports than use your right to comment (100 words) on why that shouldn't be weighed against you.  Nothing stays for less than 5 yrs, and that's only a few smaller things. Most everything stays at least 8 but more likely 10, bankruptcy is now 12 yrs. This AFTER it's all paid. You may be debt free in a few years but your credit report information tells whoever looks at it what your situation was for the last ten yrs. So don't be looking to buy that house as soon as the debt is paid. The best idea is to search for your state's rules to see what stays and for how long, or let a lawyer work for you. We have our ways to get them to talk :-)  I just yesterday used comments on the 3 reports to say the credit card company caused a lot of the problems &#38; I explained it. Also yesterday I finally got the right person who had some kindness for a permanently sick client. They settled for 35% I was happy, but I always want a better rate :-) Check your state law and the Federal Fair Debt Collection Act. It's all on Google. Ok I see a question. Sorry for writing so long. If you tell the credit cards to go jump they will sue and get a judgment. If you are working they will garnish your wages, future employers, landlords, mortgage cos, trying to make big purchases (I'm thinking new furniture) and others may all turn you down. That's just a brief overview. It's worse than that. In IL. once there is a judgment they can charge only 9%,so if they are charging a lot more than that then in very unique circumstances you may want to pay the judgment after they sue. I've rarely done that. You have no defense so don't pay to go to court. Maite has a great point. I should have noticed it much earlier. It sounds like many of you have really high debt and bankruptcy is the answer. It isn't looked at as a terrible thing like it use to be. The economy is terrible. People are losing long term jobs, people have huge medical debts. People looking at your reports don't judge as much when they see a bankruptcy (BK) - not because I'm a lawyer - but with such high debt you'll probably come out ahead if you go to a lawyer who specializes in this. It's one of my three practice areas. Look for one who only does credit and debt collection work. They can review everything and tell you all your options and what the consequences would be. If you go bankrupt you will get tons of credit card offers, offers to buy cars and other big items. DON'T DO IT!! They give you very bad deals, even if it's hidden well. Hope I helped a little. I'm just passing through. Good Luck All. Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to take issue with Steve &#8220;The Debt Man&#8221; B. As long as you have considerable debt you need to know that your score will go up very little if you pay one debt. I understand we are talking about more debt than credit here, and delinquency. (For Imwilker - they run the world. You are hard to understand. You paid about $9,000.00 in 20 yrs? $500/yr? I can&#8217;t have that right. That would be real bad. That&#8217;s what it looks like.You are still at an amount where it is to their advantage to sue you, as they get costs, attorney fees, etc. some credit cards just have a certain amt where they won&#8217;t talk to you. Keep paying and someone will talk to you at their set amount, probably $1500.00 to $1,000. I bet they&#8217;ll talk to a lawyer. They are ass%oles but they don&#8217;t owe you any kindness.) Personally I hate GE Money Bank. They like to pull fast ones. Now, It&#8217;s true that a good portion of your score is how much you owe, but just as importantly to your score, the more you owe on more than one acct. the points will go down. As important and especially true for your points is whether you have a poor &#8220;debt to credit ratio&#8221; which means that you have more debt than you have available credit to borrow (usually on a credit card.) They even have a standard where they look to see if you have $10,000.00 on any card which is available for your use. Don&#8217;t expect to see a big point rise if these other things exist on your report.Also, negative remarks can remain for at least 5 and up to 8 yrs. I just had a case where I worked to get rid of the remarks. It&#8217;s true that they don&#8217;t have a big effect on your points, but you can have negative remarks by a rotten credit card company for losing your temper with them on one phone call. I&#8217;ve seen it too much. They put that you are disputing them, and the way they word it translates into making you look like a troublemaker. Nothing on a credit report stays for close to 2 years. I wish that were true for my clients&#8217; sake. Not even close. But depending on your state many of those who are entitled to see your report may not be able to see the comments. If you have strong information in your favor where a negative remark is on your reports than use your right to comment (100 words) on why that shouldn&#8217;t be weighed against you.  Nothing stays for less than 5 yrs, and that&#8217;s only a few smaller things. Most everything stays at least 8 but more likely 10, bankruptcy is now 12 yrs. This AFTER it&#8217;s all paid. You may be debt free in a few years but your credit report information tells whoever looks at it what your situation was for the last ten yrs. So don&#8217;t be looking to buy that house as soon as the debt is paid. The best idea is to search for your state&#8217;s rules to see what stays and for how long, or let a lawyer work for you. We have our ways to get them to talk <img src='http://www.askmrcreditcard.com/creditcardblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just yesterday used comments on the 3 reports to say the credit card company caused a lot of the problems &amp; I explained it. Also yesterday I finally got the right person who had some kindness for a permanently sick client. They settled for 35% I was happy, but I always want a better rate <img src='http://www.askmrcreditcard.com/creditcardblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Check your state law and the Federal Fair Debt Collection Act. It&#8217;s all on Google. Ok I see a question. Sorry for writing so long. If you tell the credit cards to go jump they will sue and get a judgment. If you are working they will garnish your wages, future employers, landlords, mortgage cos, trying to make big purchases (I&#8217;m thinking new furniture) and others may all turn you down. That&#8217;s just a brief overview. It&#8217;s worse than that. In IL. once there is a judgment they can charge only 9%,so if they are charging a lot more than that then in very unique circumstances you may want to pay the judgment after they sue. I&#8217;ve rarely done that. You have no defense so don&#8217;t pay to go to court. Maite has a great point. I should have noticed it much earlier. It sounds like many of you have really high debt and bankruptcy is the answer. It isn&#8217;t looked at as a terrible thing like it use to be. The economy is terrible. People are losing long term jobs, people have huge medical debts. People looking at your reports don&#8217;t judge as much when they see a bankruptcy (BK) - not because I&#8217;m a lawyer - but with such high debt you&#8217;ll probably come out ahead if you go to a lawyer who specializes in this. It&#8217;s one of my three practice areas. Look for one who only does credit and debt collection work. They can review everything and tell you all your options and what the consequences would be. If you go bankrupt you will get tons of credit card offers, offers to buy cars and other big items. DON&#8217;T DO IT!! They give you very bad deals, even if it&#8217;s hidden well. Hope I helped a little. I&#8217;m just passing through. Good Luck All. Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello:

I have a credit card question and am seeking opinion/advice.  Four years ago after divorce and becomming a single parent I found myself in credit card debt and when late on payments, the credit card companies raised my interest rates to high twenties, low thirties.  It didn't take long for this to then put me over the limits.  With the over limit fees and high interest, I was having a hard time making the minimum payments.  It was always my intention to pay back the debt but was finding it impossible.  I wrote certified letters to the 3 companies asking if they would close the accounts, lower the interest until I could get the debt paid off.  I explained that I intended on paying the debt but was unable to with the high interest, over limit fees.  I then explained that if they were unable to work with me, I would be forced to let them default.  None of the three companies were willing to work with me.  Therefore, I waited the 3-4 months of no payments (which then added late fees) until it was sold to a collection company.  The companies then harrassed me at work, home and cell.  They were threatening and abusive.  I set up agreements with each of them starting with a large initial payment.  From there, monthly payments were made.  I got another job and worked at paying back these debts.  One company was paid off and I never heard from them again.  The second company was paid off and a few months later I got a call from a new collection company stating they had bought the account.  I sent the Better Business Bureau a letter explaining the scam to get more money from me after I had a paid off letter, etc.  I got a letter from the collection company apologizing and saying I wouldn't hear from them again.  The third company is what haunts me today.  I made the initial large payment to secure the settlement and from their, they directly deducted from my checking account monthly payments.  Nearing the end of the agreement, I wished to speed up payback and increased the monthly payment.  When I made my last payment, I called to tell them to stop deducting from my account, as it was paid per our agreement.  Eight to 12 months later, I find that they have sold the account to another company.  I called the company which I had made the agreements and payments to and was told by 3 different employees that because they had sold my account, they had no information that they could give to me.  Today (4 years after setting up the agreement) , I was served papers stating that this current collection company is taking me to court for the entire amount initally owed.  Now, I have documents (the check that was initially given to start the settlement agreement and bank records from the deductions this company made.  I also made notes about phone calls to this company, persons spoke to and dates).  However, the settlement agreement was done verbally over the phone and I never received anything in writing, nor do I have a payoff letter, which I had requested and never received.  I am preparing a letter and copies of documents to send to the county court where this was filed.  Do you have ANY other advice as to what I can do to FINALLY clear this up.  This has haunted me and caused me an enourmous amount of stress and hardship.  I did everything in my ability to make good on this debt.  I am very frustrated and concerned.  Any advice you could give would greatly be appreciated.

Thank you for your time,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello:</p>
<p>I have a credit card question and am seeking opinion/advice.  Four years ago after divorce and becomming a single parent I found myself in credit card debt and when late on payments, the credit card companies raised my interest rates to high twenties, low thirties.  It didn&#8217;t take long for this to then put me over the limits.  With the over limit fees and high interest, I was having a hard time making the minimum payments.  It was always my intention to pay back the debt but was finding it impossible.  I wrote certified letters to the 3 companies asking if they would close the accounts, lower the interest until I could get the debt paid off.  I explained that I intended on paying the debt but was unable to with the high interest, over limit fees.  I then explained that if they were unable to work with me, I would be forced to let them default.  None of the three companies were willing to work with me.  Therefore, I waited the 3-4 months of no payments (which then added late fees) until it was sold to a collection company.  The companies then harrassed me at work, home and cell.  They were threatening and abusive.  I set up agreements with each of them starting with a large initial payment.  From there, monthly payments were made.  I got another job and worked at paying back these debts.  One company was paid off and I never heard from them again.  The second company was paid off and a few months later I got a call from a new collection company stating they had bought the account.  I sent the Better Business Bureau a letter explaining the scam to get more money from me after I had a paid off letter, etc.  I got a letter from the collection company apologizing and saying I wouldn&#8217;t hear from them again.  The third company is what haunts me today.  I made the initial large payment to secure the settlement and from their, they directly deducted from my checking account monthly payments.  Nearing the end of the agreement, I wished to speed up payback and increased the monthly payment.  When I made my last payment, I called to tell them to stop deducting from my account, as it was paid per our agreement.  Eight to 12 months later, I find that they have sold the account to another company.  I called the company which I had made the agreements and payments to and was told by 3 different employees that because they had sold my account, they had no information that they could give to me.  Today (4 years after setting up the agreement) , I was served papers stating that this current collection company is taking me to court for the entire amount initally owed.  Now, I have documents (the check that was initially given to start the settlement agreement and bank records from the deductions this company made.  I also made notes about phone calls to this company, persons spoke to and dates).  However, the settlement agreement was done verbally over the phone and I never received anything in writing, nor do I have a payoff letter, which I had requested and never received.  I am preparing a letter and copies of documents to send to the county court where this was filed.  Do you have ANY other advice as to what I can do to FINALLY clear this up.  This has haunted me and caused me an enourmous amount of stress and hardship.  I did everything in my ability to make good on this debt.  I am very frustrated and concerned.  Any advice you could give would greatly be appreciated.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time,<br />
Heather</p>
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		<title>By: Maite Diaz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An alternative to consider when you have a large amount of unsecured debt is filing for bankruptcy.  It is not a devastating to your credit as it may seem and you will be able to start fresh without the hassle of dealing with the individual creditors on a case by case basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An alternative to consider when you have a large amount of unsecured debt is filing for bankruptcy.  It is not a devastating to your credit as it may seem and you will be able to start fresh without the hassle of dealing with the individual creditors on a case by case basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Debt Reduction Podcast Edition : No Credit Needed Podcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Debt Reduction Podcast Edition : No Credit Needed Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mr. Credit Card writes about negotiating with creditors. Good post that I missed the first time around! [...]</description>
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