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		<title>By: C. Edmund Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Edmund Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that I have not seen a single comment about the fees being fully tax deductible. I sense some on this board have no clue what they are talking about.

I bit the bullet today and ordered my card. Will be in Tuesday. The main reason? Taxes. Money my business does not spend will roughly belong 45% to Uncle Sam as of tomorrow night. That makes the fees much more acceptable and means the savings don't have to be that great to pay for itself. 55% of 5000 is under 3K.

It takes just a couple trips for perks to add up to 3K.  My wife figured that a centurion card on a family trip/ convention trip from Raleigh to Nashville last year would have been worth almost 2K. That's hardly big league international travel.

Also, image is important in most professions and businesses. If this card impresses just one key person per year, it will more than pay for itself for almost any business or professional person. That, plus the tax deductibility,  more than the perks, are the cost-benefit analyses I have made in getting it. Time will tell whether I decide it is worth it. I guess I will have a year to observe reaction to the card.

BTW: did transaction by phone. Been AMEX member for about 18 years. Platinum member for maybe 5. Run about 500-600K per year thru AMEX for the business.  No applications or financial statements needed. We were on the invite list but it is true that now it is open to applicants who meet the 250K per year expenditures on AMEX. I do not think it is as common as many on this board have indicated. My banker had never even seen one as of a few months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that I have not seen a single comment about the fees being fully tax deductible. I sense some on this board have no clue what they are talking about.</p>
<p>I bit the bullet today and ordered my card. Will be in Tuesday. The main reason? Taxes. Money my business does not spend will roughly belong 45% to Uncle Sam as of tomorrow night. That makes the fees much more acceptable and means the savings don&#8217;t have to be that great to pay for itself. 55% of 5000 is under 3K.</p>
<p>It takes just a couple trips for perks to add up to 3K.  My wife figured that a centurion card on a family trip/ convention trip from Raleigh to Nashville last year would have been worth almost 2K. That&#8217;s hardly big league international travel.</p>
<p>Also, image is important in most professions and businesses. If this card impresses just one key person per year, it will more than pay for itself for almost any business or professional person. That, plus the tax deductibility,  more than the perks, are the cost-benefit analyses I have made in getting it. Time will tell whether I decide it is worth it. I guess I will have a year to observe reaction to the card.</p>
<p>BTW: did transaction by phone. Been AMEX member for about 18 years. Platinum member for maybe 5. Run about 500-600K per year thru AMEX for the business.  No applications or financial statements needed. We were on the invite list but it is true that now it is open to applicants who meet the 250K per year expenditures on AMEX. I do not think it is as common as many on this board have indicated. My banker had never even seen one as of a few months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment by mark i have been a platinum member since 1997,never late. Ihave seen that visa has its own card called "the black card". Wonder how it stacks up to the centurion ? I am sure i can apply and get the visa and the fee is $450 /yr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comment by mark i have been a platinum member since 1997,never late. Ihave seen that visa has its own card called &#8220;the black card&#8221;. Wonder how it stacks up to the centurion ? I am sure i can apply and get the visa and the fee is $450 /yr</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been in the first group offered the card in Australia on reflection there are many reasons why I keep the card and some where I wonder the value of it. Despite having the Titanium version I use only the plastic one as it requires less explanation and comment (unless I guess thats what you want!) . Also as an Australian card holder I do not seem to have the same benefits as US card holders which is a shame as US is where I spend a good part of the year.

-New Year 06/07 my partner and I were in Thailand when the bombings happened in Bangkok. First thing the next morning before we knew anything about it Someone from Amex Centurion was on the phone checking we were OK and did we want to be immediately evacuated.. Wow!

Travel service used to be great and I had 2 wonderful agents over 3 years, Now there is no consistency and I seem to get a different person each time I contact them. With Internet travel so easy and often with better rates Centurion is certainly going to have to offer something very special in this area to compete in the future. I am not using this service as I did in the Past.

Centurion has got us into some of the best impossible to get into restaurants worldwide at little notice. As a Food and Wine Fan, This alone to me is worth the fee.

I think the travel insurance provided is a waste of time, Amex outsourses this and service provided during the 1 claim I made was very poor. The drama involved in claiming is not worth the effort.  

The upgrades and recognition from hotels booked thru The Travel Service in most cases is fantastic and another perk worth the fee.

Overall I'm keeping mine!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been in the first group offered the card in Australia on reflection there are many reasons why I keep the card and some where I wonder the value of it. Despite having the Titanium version I use only the plastic one as it requires less explanation and comment (unless I guess thats what you want!) . Also as an Australian card holder I do not seem to have the same benefits as US card holders which is a shame as US is where I spend a good part of the year.</p>
<p>-New Year 06/07 my partner and I were in Thailand when the bombings happened in Bangkok. First thing the next morning before we knew anything about it Someone from Amex Centurion was on the phone checking we were OK and did we want to be immediately evacuated.. Wow!</p>
<p>Travel service used to be great and I had 2 wonderful agents over 3 years, Now there is no consistency and I seem to get a different person each time I contact them. With Internet travel so easy and often with better rates Centurion is certainly going to have to offer something very special in this area to compete in the future. I am not using this service as I did in the Past.</p>
<p>Centurion has got us into some of the best impossible to get into restaurants worldwide at little notice. As a Food and Wine Fan, This alone to me is worth the fee.</p>
<p>I think the travel insurance provided is a waste of time, Amex outsourses this and service provided during the 1 claim I made was very poor. The drama involved in claiming is not worth the effort.  </p>
<p>The upgrades and recognition from hotels booked thru The Travel Service in most cases is fantastic and another perk worth the fee.</p>
<p>Overall I&#8217;m keeping mine!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After 9 years of being an Amex customer, and more than 5 years of being a Centurion cardholder, Amex have requested I downgrade to Platinum. I have never had a late bill in my life, and consistently spend thousands on my account (always paid in full). What shocking customer service; what an appalling way to treat a long term customer with perfect payment history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 9 years of being an Amex customer, and more than 5 years of being a Centurion cardholder, Amex have requested I downgrade to Platinum. I have never had a late bill in my life, and consistently spend thousands on my account (always paid in full). What shocking customer service; what an appalling way to treat a long term customer with perfect payment history.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tips everyone. I've gotten some valuable information from each of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tips everyone. I&#8217;ve gotten some valuable information from each of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with David  Sept 4th and Mark Sept 16th, as an Australian card holder maybe Amex will get real and realise there are better premium offers out there.

With a global recession potentially pending - the consumer is king, let your fingers do the walking/talking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with David  Sept 4th and Mark Sept 16th, as an Australian card holder maybe Amex will get real and realise there are better premium offers out there.</p>
<p>With a global recession potentially pending - the consumer is king, let your fingers do the walking/talking</p>
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		<title>By: FAM JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>FAM JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had this card for 5 1/2 years and am going back to Platinum.  The perks have been diminishing year by year, and once I moved to Dallas (where American Airlines, the largest airline in the world, and Southwest Airlines are king), I no longer fly any of the airlines associated with AMEX.  I also mostly stay in Marriotts (the largest hotel chain in the world) which also is not affiliated with AMEX.  The personal concierge, which I use maybe 10 times a year, is certainly not worth the additional $2,050 I pay over the Platinum Card.

As I think over the six years of $2,050 I've paid for the Centurion Card ($12,300) instead of the Platinum, I'm thinking what a poor choice I made - the card is simply not worth the additional money when the Platinum Card offers every service I currently utilize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had this card for 5 1/2 years and am going back to Platinum.  The perks have been diminishing year by year, and once I moved to Dallas (where American Airlines, the largest airline in the world, and Southwest Airlines are king), I no longer fly any of the airlines associated with AMEX.  I also mostly stay in Marriotts (the largest hotel chain in the world) which also is not affiliated with AMEX.  The personal concierge, which I use maybe 10 times a year, is certainly not worth the additional $2,050 I pay over the Platinum Card.</p>
<p>As I think over the six years of $2,050 I&#8217;ve paid for the Centurion Card ($12,300) instead of the Platinum, I&#8217;m thinking what a poor choice I made - the card is simply not worth the additional money when the Platinum Card offers every service I currently utilize.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Hacks Carnival #31 — Crisis And Bailout &#124; TheOnlyDevice.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Hacks Carnival #31 — Crisis And Bailout &#124; TheOnlyDevice.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] American Express Black Centurion Card - Value or Ultimate Status Symbol at Ask Mr Credit Card. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wealth Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wealth Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own experience is that no one recognise this card.. or will treat this card like any other American Express.

Probably hi-end establishment might recognise it...... 
but if you are already shopping in hi-end establishment.. your cash smells good to them no matter what card you use.

I think it's really shallow that a card can show any status..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own experience is that no one recognise this card.. or will treat this card like any other American Express.</p>
<p>Probably hi-end establishment might recognise it&#8230;&#8230;<br />
but if you are already shopping in hi-end establishment.. your cash smells good to them no matter what card you use.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s really shallow that a card can show any status..</p>
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		<title>By: Money Hacks Carnival #31 &#8212; Crisis And Bailout : Moolanomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Hacks Carnival #31 &#8212; Crisis And Bailout : Moolanomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] American Express Black Centurion Card - Value or Ultimate Status Symbol at Ask Mr Credit Card. [...]</description>
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